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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Keynan",
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    "content": "headquarters is one that has appeared in PIC reports over the last ten years and it is still before PIC. A Departmental Committee attempted to pursue the same. How will they report to the House because this is an audit issue? It is high time you took all the Committee Chairs through the Standing Orders and the Constitution because this is a House of rules, tradition and precedent, and we cannot change the laws simply because hon. Keynan has opposition today. We have precedent. I want to thank hon. Jamleck Kamau for raising this because we really want guidance. The audit issue of GDC happened in 2010, how will PIC prepare a report given that we said we want to clear the backlog? The audited report of Tana and Athi River Development Authority (TARDA dates back to 1998. We are in a new constitutional dispensation, how can we be dealing with issues that happened in 1998? I am sure there are Members who were born after 1998. In preparation for a major report, which we want to table we have done interrogations of State corporations, which are over 90 and our desire is that by June, we should have cleared with half of them, so that we will be dealing with current issues as brought by the Auditor-General. There is no problem to do with budgets or bills; the only problem is definition and this is where we really want you to confront. I can speak authoritatively, in the last Parliament, I was the Chair of a Departmental Committee and you know the issues we handled within its purview. If we can get the definitions, they will help us sort out this operational confusion as to what constitutes Ministries and departments. I want to agree with what hon. Midiwo said, any Departmental Committee for that matter can investigate any issue, but there are limits, a boundary and guidance. This is why we have investigative, departmental or in-house committees. That is why I want to thank the scholars who participated in the drafting of these Standing Orders because they were not picked from the blues. It was as a result of precedent and traditions that happened in other civilized worlds, where there are legislators who have been legitimately elected. It is because of this that I am really touched when I see individuals who do not know their roles, they are confused and they also want to confuse others. Please if you are confused, go for a lecture or go to those who know better than you. This is simply because you do not understand alone; do not be mad with others. The Standing Orders are very clear and I want to repeat that the functions of Public Investments Committee (PIC) are very clear. We have rules that were made by your predecessor, like hon. Marende. We have rulings and you have been in the Chair. If there is anything outside what is clearly stipulated in Standing Order No. 206; I will not be told anything because I participated in the drafting of these Standing Orders. Hon. Speaker, I want every hon. Member to listen, maybe, some of my colleagues here have not had an opportunity to read Standing Order No. 206 which has three functions as follows:- “examine the reports and accounts of public investments.” We want you to help us because in my understanding, it is not consistent with the way my brother, hon. Jamleck Kamau understands. Maybe I understand “Ministries” and “departments” in a way that is different from the way somebody else understands it. I am saying that the issue my sister wanted to deal with concerning the Ministry of Health is an issue that you left to PIC. I want to urge most of you to look at the reports of PIC for the last seven years vis-à-vis the whole report of National Hospital Insurance Fund (NHIF). The report The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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