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"content": "think that even if we pay, that lack of transparency will actually help to get our bonds sold in the external market really well. Hon. Speaker, I know it is important to say that we pay Kshs1.4 billion and we protect, or gain, Kshs20 billion. But we must remember that corruption is expensive. If we do something that is going to protect people who are corrupt, integrity will not be achieved. In my mind, if we were to lose that Kshs20 billion so that we get to the root of corruption in this country, so be it and it is worth it. I think that is the direction to go. We must be totally transparent otherwise this law will not help us as much as we would like it to help us. Corruption is our number one enemy even outside this country. Nobody will buy from you if they know you are corrupt. Do not just pay one debt and say that you are now clean. You are not clean. It is a history. Also, I realize that the section that allows---"
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