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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Wakhungu",
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        "legal_name": "Chrisantus Wamalwa Wakhungu",
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    "content": "have different kinds of syllabus. Even the number of years is different. We know very well in this country, for instance, we have the 8-4-4 System of Education. When you go to Uganda, I am told they still have Form V and VI. If we are to integrate, it is important for this Committee to involve other key stakeholders so that we can see how we are going to harmonize all that. The Committee should not bring laws which are in conflict with the Constitution of this country. That is going to take us back. I also want to mention something on the co-operative movement because SACCOS are very critical as far as the economy of this country is concerned. Research has shown that Kshs400 billion is controlled by SACCOs in this country. That you cannot wish away. Kenya is way ahead when it comes to the co-operative movement. For instance, we have a new body that came in recently. It is called SACCO Societies Regulatory Authority (SASRA). It is in charge of regulation of SACCOs. When you talk about other countries, as far as the co-operative movement is concerned, they are way behind. We need to look at these issues and, instead of us focusing on other countries; we can be on the same level. It will be taking us back as far as the co-operative movement is concerned. I know that some of the SACCOs in this country are already doing banking. There are those which are doing front office banking while others are doing back office banking. But when you compare with Uganda, its co-operative services are way behind. It is important that this Committee works together with other committees. Where we see that we are negating ourselves, we do not pass. When I look at this, it is actually taking us back. When you look at the East African Community (EAC) our next step was to get a common currency. Then from common currency, we were then supposed to enter into a political federation. I think that has been the trend. For us to come and pass such kind of laws, it is taking us back. So, what I am requesting my friend hon. (Ms.) Kajuju is to find a way forward. I was keenly listening to the people who proposed this Bill. You will realize that the people who proposed these Bills were not even Kenyans. It is important that next time you bring such an issue, it is for you to tell us: “These people are coming from this country.” I guess they were bringing this for purposes of enhancing their co- operative movement, whichever countries they are coming from. It is, again, a wakeup call to the Members of EALA who are representing this country. Before such an issue reaches such a level, they are supposed to put their input in the interest of this country, instead of us allowing such Bills to come at this level and say it is a form of consolidation. It will be a waste of time. It is important, as they try to push this ahead, to involve the line ministries, for instance. We know very well that the Jubilee Government has come up with a policy of reducing the number of parastatals in this country. It is about the issue of the wage bill and all that. An executive order is supposed to be issued. The idea behind this is based on an Article of the Treaty, but it negates the Constitution of this country. So, it is important that before such things come before this House, the aspect of the Constitution must be given priority. With regard to the issue of lawyers, there is the East African Community Legal Practice Act. In this country, we have the Law Society of Kenya (LSK). Unless you have gone to the School of Law, you cannot be allowed to practise as an advocate. We will also need to have a comparative analysis and see how we are going to harmonize that, when cross border legal practice is put in place. We understand we have different The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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