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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, the important thing and the message we must send to our people under Article 96 as guardians of the Constitution and also the counties---. I heard Sen. Murkomen refer to this in his submissions – under Chapter six of the Constitution, there is no small or big sin or crime when it comes to matters of the responsibility that has been given to us. So, it is wrong, even for any commission, like I have been reading recently, to say that the law needs to be changed to change the threshold of impeachment. The law is very clear. The Constitution, Section 33 of the County Governments Act and our Standing Orders are very clear. It is a question of how they are interpreted by Members of the County Assembly (MCAs). The question is: Is it true that the Members of the County Assembly can be manipulated or made to make a decision that is wrong because of bribery and other ways of manipulation? Yes, it can happen just as Members of Parliament can be manipulated. So, let us not talk about MCAs as if they are lesser legislators than we are. They have an authority because they are elected by the people. They are on the ground and have dealt with all these situations that we are dealing with. For example, this is situation that has been brought to us. So, do we know whether or not the maize germinated? We did not go to any shamba to check on that. But the report is there and we were able to interrogate it. We appointed a Committee chaired very ably by Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale and he has given us a report. I want to thank him and his Committee because after I have read the Committee’s Report, it convinces me that nothing has changed. The message must go out there. We must make it clear that it is not the MCAs or the Senators. I want to believe that we, as Senators, are enjoined by law to work judiciously and look at what the MCAs in Embu have said. If they have made a mistake, in our view, as a Senate constituted into a court, then we should be able to correct it. That has not arisen. I beg to support."
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