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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Raila",
    "speaker_title": "The Prime Minister",
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        "legal_name": "Raila Amolo Odinga",
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    "content": "This is now being improved scientifically all over the world. This is a subject that has been discussed at international forums. What I am talking about is a recommendation coming out of international forums by experts in this field. The process of restocking year in, year out becomes unsustainable. That is the reason as to why we are going to hold a major seminar, so that we can begin to talk about how we can make this area green. What we call Arid and Semi-Arid Lands (ASALs) is so similar to what we have in Israel. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, only 40 per cent of the land in Israel is ASAL. Sixty per cent of the land there is pure desert, but they have been able to turn the whole of that desert green and produce sufficient food for their people through irrigation. Israel is also water scarce. So, they do water desalination before they use it for irrigation. Kenya is not water scarce. We have sufficient water. We can pipe this water to areas we call ASALs and use it to carry out irrigation in those areas. That is why I am talking about weaning our people from overdependence on pastoralism to a more sedentary system of life. Hon. Njuguna talked about logging. Logging in this country has been banned but there are criminals who continue to do logging illegally. We must differentiate between plantation forests, which are called “commercial forests” from our indigenous forests. Commercial forests are planted and their trees have a limited lifespan. When they mature, they need to be harvested and then replanting is done. Sometimes you see lorries carrying logs from the commercial plantations. That is not illegal. It has been formally allowed by the Government. We have totally banned logging or cutting of indigenous forests, but there are criminals who continue to do illegal logging. This is not formally allowed by the Government. We know that sometimes there is collusion with Government officers who act criminally, and we have issued instructions that action be taken against those officers. Thank you, Mr. temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir."
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