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    "content": "benefit are also going to generate some little money so that, again, it can be transmitted back to the same kitty so that it can be sub-divided or distributed to those other counties which do not have that money. For me, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I approach it in a very different way. We have some counties here which produce or which can generate money, like in the cases of Mombasa, Nairobi, Kajiado and, maybe, in the larger Mt. Kenya region, Kirinyaga included, where we grow coffee, tea, rice and many other crops. All these are cash crops which generate money, and this money is transmitted to the central pool to be dished out in the form of revenue allocation. What this means is that as much as we have those counties producing and even contributing that much to the national kitty, we are not talking of the same counties as to how we can now perpetuate the same wealth and contribution that they have been giving to the national kitty so that the others can also receive from the same. So, I would, therefore, advocate that those counties which have done that contribution to be appreciated. I stand here to defend those counties which have contributed enough money to the kitty so that the same money can now be redistributed to those others in the name of Equalisation Fund and many other names. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, what we see in our counties is very different; you will find the way counties budget their money is different from what others do. Towards the end, you will find that not a single county will claim that they have enough money. Even if they were to be given Kshs270 billion, Kshs280 billion or even Kshs300 billion, they will never say that enough is enough. So, what we should encourage these counties is to ask them whether the money that they are given will be generated enough so that it can have what we call the multiplier effect so that, that multiplier effect can now be translated to mean that money is now enough to be generated to other counties and to be given out in the form of allocations. So, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, most of the counties are suffering from inability to do even fiscal accounting. Some of them cannot account for the money given to them; some of them cannot even make sure that the labour or the jobs that they create can be sustained in the same counties. We have most of the counties which are giving job scales which are very high. You will find that the jobs which are there are of scale S; others are T, and others are even beyond that. These are very senior positions. So, what this House should, therefore, do is to come up with a general policy which is going to be average to all of them so that all counties employ personnel of the same caliber and that they are given the same salary. Those who will be transferred from the national Government to the counties should know that they are transferring with their earnings so that their salary will be transferred also. But the moment you now transfer the services to the counties and you are not even devolving the salaries to the same counties, it means that you are going to overburden the counties. Therefore, these counties will spend most of their money in recruitment and on the salaries. Most of these counties have become employment bureaus. So, if there is a way, we should restrict the number of people to be employed. We should even dictate to them the kind of scales that they are supposed to adopt and in so doing, I am sure they are going to save quite a lot of money which can be saved in other areas. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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