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    "speaker_name": "The Senate Majority Leader",
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        "legal_name": "Onesimus Kipchumba Murkomen",
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    "content": "(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Thank you, Sen. Muthama. Time has come when, as politicians, we must be able to balance our different responsibilities. We must not be misguided that the only thing that matters in our lives is the votes we get. I am a Senator for those who take alcohol and also a Senator for those who do not take it. I am going to balance and say that it is okay if you choose to take alcohol but there is a line I will not allow you to cross. If that costs me votes, so be it. I will go back to the university and lecture law. I think this House requires sobriety. This hyper protective approach where you think everything has to do with votes must be rejected. We must go beyond that. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I agree that there are some provisions in this Bill that need to be looked into afresh and that is why we have the Committee Stage. For example, when I discussed this with the Seconder of the Bill in the Second Reading, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, he actually convinced me that when you say to a villager that if you are caught with alcohol related offences, we are going to fine you Kshs10,000, you are actually sending that person to jail, because not very many people who vote for us can afford Kshs10,000 as a fine. That is the kind of feedback I would appreciate so that if we lowered that maybe to Kshs3,000 or Kshs2,000 and then you give a bit of flexibility where if you pay a fine, that should be punitive enough and you can continue with your business. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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