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    "content": "(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. On greatness, all Kenyan communities, big and small, many and few are great. On the other issue, I did not mention Western Province. I talked about western part of Kenya which includes Nyanza and the great County of Busia, where Sen. Amos Wako comes from. The things we are struggling with in this country – I am persuaded - can be confronted in the first six years of school. You can kill tribalism by the time a child is in Class Six and there will be nothing like tribalism. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, with regard to corruption, instead of using the initial years of childhood as it happens in the oriental countries, Japan and China, these are countries that have done so well. The first five years, the Japanese child is taught how it is great to be Japanese. They are taught the history of their country and where they have come from; the bad, the ugly and the beautiful part of their history. They are taught how you can be a proud citizen of Japan even if you do not like the people who are leading at that time. That is where the difference is. That the country, therefore, becomes bigger than the person leading it. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the other day, I was in London. Some British people will tell you that they do not like Prime Minister David Cameron. I did not say all of them but some. However, even if he is the Prime Minister, Britain is greater than Mr. Cameron, and greater than the political party he represents. The things built around the greatness of The Great Britain and Japan are instilled in young people. You cannot wait to catch fifty year old men and women through a Truth, Justice and Reconciliation Commission (TJRC), to teach them tolerance and forgiveness when they have known vengeance, violence and tribalism all their lives. That cannot work. However, these children can be taught tolerance and the National Anthem. If you ask an average university student today studying Law, Medicine or Commerce to sing for you the third line of the second stanza of the National Anthem, you will realise that they do not know it. Some know, but the average students do not know. I say this because nations are created. I know, as a country, we are struggling to create a nation called Kenya, where any person or citizen; whether from Mandera, Makueni or Homa Bay know that they are citizens of a great country called Kenya. However, we are using the wrong interventions. You think by-passing the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Economic Crimes Act (EAEC) Act of 2003, you can change the mindset of a sixty year old person who has known that he can never thrive until he is corrupt. What do other countries do? The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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