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    "id": 448038,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/448038/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Kembi-Gitura",
    "speaker_title": "The Deputy Speaker",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 242,
        "legal_name": "James Kembi Gitura",
        "slug": "kembi-gitura"
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    "content": " Hon. Senators, let us look at this issue dispassionately. I think this is where Sen. Kagwe is coming from; that if we proceed with this debate on the Motion of Adjournment and if we should continue to discuss the name of Gen. Karangi and Cabinet Secretary Matiang’i, and should Sen. (Prof.) Anyang’- Nyong’o for any reason be unable to substantiate tomorrow, then damage would have been done to people who will never be able to defend themselves on the Floor of the House. So, all I am saying – I want to be understood very clearly and I do not think that Sen. (Prof.) Anyang’-Nyong’o has said that that is the line he is going to take on his contribution – is that at least we cannot proceed on the specific issue of those two gentlemen until there is a substantiation and then you are able at that moment to put everything that you have on the table about the meeting that you say they had in Serena and in which they told the press not to cover the Saba Saba rally live."
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