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    "speaker_name": "Hon. A.B. Duale",
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        "legal_name": "Aden Bare Duale",
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    "content": "Hon. Speaker, s aba saba are Kiswahili words. It means “seven seven” and it is not an unparliamentary word. If it is a unparliamentary word the Speaker will sanction me. I can as well say n ane nane or k umi kumi. Hon. Speaker, my friend hon. Neto said that the Report is good, but it is not in conformity with the Constitution. Let me go back to Chapter 15 on commissions and independent offices. The difference between me and some my colleagues is that I served in the last Parliament which, enacted this Constitution; I was in the “Yes Team”. If you want to remove the nine commissions of the Teachers Service Commission (TSC), the Judicial Service Commission (JSC), the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC), the Public Service Commission (PSC), the Commission on Revenue Allocation (CRA) and the two independent offices of the Controller of Budget and that of the Auditor-General, the route you will take is Article 251 of the Constitution. That route goes through this Parliament, where a petition will come. Hon. Speaker, if you want to discuss devolution there is a whole chapter on devolution and Kenyans in their wisdom went to a referendum and created a bicameral parliament. They said the Senate will only deal with matters of county governments. So, if you have serious issues like the one the hon. Chair of the Departmental Committee on Health brought--- The issues facing Level Five hospitals today in a devolved system cannot be discussed by leaders outside the Senate and the National Assembly. Hon. Speaker, I want to say it even to my President that you cannot dialogue outside the confines and the institutions that have been set by this Constitution. I will be the first guy to resign as the Leader of the Majority Party if hon. Uhuru Kenyatta starts a dialogue outside the confines of this Constitution. We must respect the Constitution. Hon. Speaker, I have made my point that this is not a debating hall. This is a House that deliberates and resolves issues of concern to the people of Kenya, which range from security to agriculture and the IEBC. If it is corruption you will go to the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC). If you have issues with corruption you can also go to the Controller of Budget. Hon. Speaker, coming back to this Report, it is very good but it is in the wrong place. This Report should not go to the dialogue conference. This Report should go to the Senate."
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