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    "id": 448650,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/448650/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ogola",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Gideon Ochanda Ogolla",
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    "content": "Thank you, hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. Hon. (Eng.) Gumbo is a senior Member of Parliament and he knows the Standing Orders. He is trying to put me off shoot because he supported this nefarious authority. What I am trying to say is that we cannot legislate for nothing; we must be solving a problem. I have listened to my colleagues make presentations in support of this Bill, but I am yet to hear what particular problem this Bill is going to solve. Some are saying that we have colleges along River Road that are giving certificates which do not meet the standards. We do not need an authority to solve that. It is very clear. We already have enough mechanisms that we can use to ensure that nobody gives a useless certificate in Kenya. I am hearing that we do not know how to grade the degree certificates from outside the country. We do not need another authority with 50 to 100 people employed and earning money, adding to the wage bill that is currently burdening Kenyans to just know that a university in Australia is fit or not fit to give Kenyans degrees. I think by all accounts, if the Cabinet Secretary, the Jubilee Government or the Leader of the Majority Party or whoever has brought it here wants an authority to do this, we can turn this Bill to be an amendment of KNEC law and Commission for Higher Education (CHE) law."
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