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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Musyimi",
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    "content": "I thank you, hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I beg to reply. Let me begin by thanking you, your office and that of the Clerk and the Parliamentary Budget Office for all the work they do to make it possible for us to deliver as we have sought to do this afternoon. I also thank the hon. Members for their insightful, professional and patriotic interventions. We have made note of what they have said. May I just say that many of these issues, we had occasion to raise them face to face with the National Treasury. I get the sense that we are going through a transition and I do not think that, that is a secret. As much as I do not want to speak in defense of the need for a Supplementary Budget because I have too spoken against it, we might want to accept that the transition is not easy. Until the plane gets into a cruise mode, we will require interventions that help us into a period where the services of the Government are a bit predictable. Let me say that the amount of money that we are talking about is not small change. If you get together the budget for the national Government and that of the county governments, you will find that we are actually talking about Kshs2.6 trillion. This is because it is Kshs1.78 billion for the national Government and Kshs226.6 billion for county governments. The Budget of this Republic; national and county is actually Kshs2.6 trillion. That is not little money as I have said. We need to make sure that we can account for this money. We also need to make sure that we can show why we support this Budget. One of the major concerns that I have and I am not too worried about the national Government because watching the work of the Committees and certainly the one that I am honoured to chair, I know that we shall do oversight work. I know we will deliver as an oversight institution because the men and women that sit in the Chamber are up to that task. My worry is actually the county governments. At some point when you do the socio-economic impact we will need to ask ourselves what we will do about the county governments. When you give Kshs226 billion to a county and six months down the road you cannot see any results, where has that money gone other than trips and so on and so forth? So, we have a problem in the oversight capacity of the county governments. I think that is something that we really need to discuss. One of the things I am thinking about is the possibility of creating a forum for the Budget and Appropriations Committee of the National Assembly to meet the budget committees of the county assemblies so that we can see how we can assist. I think issues of capacity may also be a factor and that is something that we need to look at in future. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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