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    "content": "stop it, if you over-control it, if you make it almost impossible to manufacture it and sell it, it will go underground, and that is what is happening. That is why we are dying; we are not dying from alcohol, we are dying from people who have adulterated alcohol. They have adulterated it because it has become too expensive and too risky to make it. When you make it now, you have to adulterate it so that you sell at a higher price and it makes people drunk faster; and it ends up killing people. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I grew up when the bar was still in the village; it used to be called--- There was a licenced bar in my village and, in fact, it was owned by the chief. People used to drink busaa there. Old people used to go there in the evening to drink busaa. I also grew up a bit in Uganda and in the campus of Makerere University, where I did my law degree, there was in fact a brewery inside Makerere University. Sometimes we would go and drink there with my friend, Mukhisa Kituyi. There were many drinks there; you could take Tonto, Waragi and many other drinks. If you go to the other side of Busia – not the Kenyan side – you will find elders sitting there with long mirijas enjoying their traditional beer. They just add hot water and they take it. It is not an offense in Uganda, and they are not dying in Uganda; they are dying in Kenya. You should ask yourself why. They are not dying in Tanzania, but they are dying in Kenya. The more you make these big laws with so many sections about control of alcohol, you cause more deaths because the people in Nyeri will continue drinking, whether you like it or not. In fact the more you outlaw it – I know that we have outlawed--- Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I think it was Sen. Wako, when he was the Attorney- General, who brought that law that almost made it a very serious offense to be found in possession of this easy one which we smoke anyhowly – bangi – the grass. The magistrates started punishing people with life sentences for being found in possession of a roll of bangi . In fact, the magistrates said “our hands are tied; there is nothing we can do” and they sent just two, three or four people to life imprisonment. The whole country went into an uproar; and Sen. Wako had to explain the law further to his magistrates. Because there are certain things if you outlaw them---"
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