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    "id": 457661,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/457661/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. A.B. Duale",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 15,
        "legal_name": "Aden Bare Duale",
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    "content": "ecosystem in terms of management plans. Finally, the Bill seeks to establish a wildlife conservation endowment fund and an innovate compensation scheme to be financed by the income from investments, grants, donations and friends of conservation. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I am sure that the Committee and this House will re-look at Clause 9 of this Bill, which is on penalties. The Bill proposes punitive penalties. For example, it says that if you contravene a management plan, you will be fined Kshs500,000 or serve a two-year jail term. Polluting wildlife areas attracts a fine of Kshs2 million and a two-year jail term. Contravening licences attracts a fine of Kshs200,000 or a one-year jail term. Offences of poaching of endangered species for trophies will attract a fine of Kshs10 million or a 15-year jail term. There are also offences of subsistence hunting or hunting for bush meat, and offences of import and export of wildlife. We need to balance. When an elephant or lion walks out of a game park, goes to a homestead and kills the little livelihood that a family was keeping, for example, from a pastoralist’s point of view, some 10 or 20 goats that that family was surviving on and it is killed, it should be comparable to a situation when a farmer fences his small farm to keep of wildlife. If wildlife is killed in such an encounter, the case should be totally different from killings by poachers. Of course, as a country, we must deter people from killing wildlife. We must provide for very harsh penalties for poaching in our country and in the region. However---"
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