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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Mati",
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        "legal_name": "G.J. Munuve Mati",
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    "content": "Hon. Speaker, it is difficult for me. Let me confess that whereas I do not object to the amendment, I do not see anything that it is adding to the substance of the report. I actually support the report. The amendment talks about taking responsibility. Let me start by saying that I do not stand here to speak as Mukamba . I am an elected Member of Parliament, representing everybody in this country. I want to congratulate hon. Mwiru and his Committee because they did a good job. He is from a neighbouring constituency. I also want to accept the fact that this was a 360 degrees evaluation of hon. Ngilu, coming, as it did, very early in her tenure as the Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Housing and Urban Development. I also want to congratulate her because she actually took responsibility and corrected the wrongs that she had committed. If we go into witch-hunting, where we decide that we have to use a big cane for every wrong done, we will have a big problem, as a country. I remember the early days in the life of this Parliament, when Members of Parliament, and specifically hon. Kaluma, talked about a lot of transfers that had taken place in various Ministries. We did not go very far with the matter then. There were explanations as to why the transfers were done, and the matter rested at that. I beseech this House not to move from playing an oversight role over the Executive to actually playing an executive role. We have a report. Let us kick it upstairs and wait for the Executive to deal with their staff. They could reprimand or do what they deem fit. That is the responsibility and prerogative of the Executive and not this House. When this House plays the oversight role and also decides to play executive roles within the Government then we will have a problem, and will not be able to move. I feel very strongly on the issue of the Constitution--- Hon. wa Kabando will attest to this, although he is talking. Hon. wa Kabando and I worked very hard for this The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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