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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Nyamweya",
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        "legal_name": "Manson Oyongo Nyamweya",
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    "content": "The next issue which comes to mind is the Accounting Officer or the CEO of NCPB. He must tell us who told him to do what he did because he was not alone. We may look at Erad, condemn them, but let us look at the players who enabled him to commit that crime. The first group is the banks. When a bank gives a guarantee or a performance bond, it is a serious instrument and you take it the way it is. It is a serious instrument. I will ask the Kenya Bankers Association to take up this issue. How many transactions have happened like this one where fraud is committed because the banks are aiding people to steal public funds? More importantly, this is the only way we can fight wastage. The Auditor-General says that 30 per cent of our money goes to wastage. It is the only way we can instill discipline. This issue is not about parties. It is not about where I come from. It is about Kenya. We need to conserve resources for this country, so that the penny that is available is used for this country. I can tell you, Members, if we avoid the wastage, we will not have to look for money from foreigners. We will be a self-sustaining economy. The only problem that we have is the wastage that is there. Even the NCPB, how come they did not have a lawyer to argue that case? Were they conniving all of them? When you look at the documents which are presented, you realise that there were contracts and there were no valid documents which could have enabled somebody to go to court. An arbitrator was appointed. If you look at the Report of the Committee, you wonder what is happening here. The NCPB provides storage facilities for the whole country. Somebody wanted to vandalize the facilities so that, at the end of the day, they take them. That was the whole idea of the process. Members, let us support this report. More importantly, action needs to be taken against the organisations and the people who participated in the fraud. The Permanent Secretary, Treasury, is in charge of funds in this country. How can he write a letter and he is ignored? What went wrong? How can he say that the supplier should supply before he is paid and nobody listens to him? He is the one who has the wallet. He is the one who is going to give money. We have condemned somebody in the Department of Special Programmes, in the Ministry of Agriculture, but we should be told what went wrong in that process. If there are other faces which are not seen, then as Members of Parliament, we need this matter to be interrogated, so that more facts and truth can come up. That way, we can know what The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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