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    "speaker_name": "Hon. A.B. Duale",
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        "legal_name": "Aden Bare Duale",
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    "content": "Thank you hon. Speaker. Today is a good day and I want to pick from where hon. (Ms.) Shebesh and hon. Ochieng left. I think we are within the mandate of Article 95 of the Constitution and Standing Order 216. Therefore, this Parliament has the powers to investigate. We will not mortgage our constitutional and Standing Orders powers to any other institution. In the first instance, I happen to have been in that meeting at Elgeyo/ Marakwet; but I am sure I do not fall within the category of hon. Shebesh. A number of my friends were in that meeting and we lived within the Standing Orders. If you get the clip of the Elgeyo/ Marakwet Rally, you will find that I did not commit anything wrong. The Standing Order that hon. (Ms.) Shebesh quoted is very important for us; if you make a very humble communication. When a matter is within the purview of a Committee and the House, hon. Members cannot discuss it in political rallies, funerals and even in their caucuses. We need to get that very clearly; whether it is in the House or in the Committee. So, that has been an issue. Secondly, when Committees carry out their investigations, part of their recommendations goes to other state agencies. We know Parliament has no infrastructure to do forensic audit or to do any test, but it has powers in its Committees findings to direct the Director of Public Prosecutions to carry further investigations. Parliament has power to tell the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission, the Auditor-General, the Police Service Commission and the Criminal Investigation Department to do investigations. The fact that we do not have the capacity to conduct DNA or forensic examination would not make us tell the Executive to institute a judicial inquiry. If the President wants to institute a judicial inquiry today, tomorrow or next day, that is within the Executive. Parliament has no business there. Hon. Speaker, I want to divert and go back to what hon. Shebesh raised. As the hon. Member for Garissa Township, I do not want to cede an inch of what Article 95 of the Constitution and Standing Order 216 give because those powers – I am sure today we have received a very comprehensive report of a forensic audit between NCPB and the Erad Supplies Company. If you look at the recommendation of the Public Investments Committee (PIC), it is directing other agencies. So, we do not want to go to Westgate Mall incident. I am sure the Committee on Defence and Foreign Relations and the Committee on Administration and National Security are our colleagues, they are up to the task through their leadership. Hon. Speaker, in the last Parliament, at one time we also overstepped and the then Chair gave a communication. We want you to give a communication so that we live by the rules. We need a fair and independent report. Our mandate is to play oversight role, The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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