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"content": "Hon. Speaker, Sir, I stand guided. At times, we are obligated by the situation and the happenings in the country that we cannot avoid to discuss such matters. I believe that even though the Standing Orders of this House bar us from discussing those matters, reading the Standing Orders clearly, what I think we should avoid is the substance part of it. Otherwise, we cannot stop the Members from discussing matters which are of national interest. There are some issues which when we look at them, although some people are talking about procedures and the due process of the law, we know the due process of the law. There is a Member who said that if you want equity, you must come to equity with clean hands. It is on the same breath that I can also say that if you want equity, you must be ready to give equity."
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