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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ichung’wa",
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        "legal_name": "Anthony Kimani Ichung'Wah",
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    "content": "Hon. Speaker, Sir, I really do not want to get into the debate of what was said and not said as hon. Ng’eno said while we were in Marakwet. But I must confirm that, indeed, I was there, but I did not speak to the issue. This is precisely because I am very conscious of the provisions of the Standing Orders in relation to matters that are before this House and more so, before a Parliamentary Committee. What you have said it true that you have remedy to all these problems and I would beg you to have the remedy to this problem that we are facing now. I was, indeed, glad when I saw the Chairs of the Committee on Defence and Foreign Relations and the Committee on Administration and National Security speak with a lot of authority that the KDF did not participate in any manner of looting at the Westgate. I was equally perturbed a day after that to watch on television officers said to be KDF officers participating in what looked like looting at the Westgate. Many Members have spoken about the substance of the debate and I do not think there is more substance than passing judgment on a matter that is being deliberated upon and a matter that is of an investigative nature as that of the Westgate. I found the position taken by the two Chairs of the Committee on Defence and Foreign Relations and the Committee on Administration and National Security to be totally out of order because that matter was investigative. The Committees ought to be deliberating on issues as to what lead to the attack at Westgate and whether or not there was actual looting. Therefore, for the two Chairs to be prejudging and pre-emptying debate and the resolutions that would come out of the deliberations of those Committees, is totally out of order. I beg that if we are to stick to the rules and procedures that we have set in this House, we must, as a House, stand firm. Whether it is one of us or a Chair of a Committee who goes against the provisions of our Standing Orders, we must be the one to lead by example and show the people of this country that we respect the rule of law by respecting our own rules and procedures."
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