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    "id": 466499,
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    "speaker_name": "Hon. A. B. Duale",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Aden Bare Duale",
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    "content": "Hon. Speaker, Sir. I have a lot of respect for hon. John Mbadi, but my good friend should be very strategic. Of course, I am entitled to my opinion. The issue hon. Mbadi has raised, on the separation of powers of the three arms of Government, is very clear. You remember, I am the one who tabled the budget of the Judicial Service Commission. If you look at the mandate of the Justice and Legal Affairs Committee of this Parliament and of the last Parliament, one of the key institutions they oversee is the Judiciary. We must draw a line between and within the Judiciary; where is the independence? The independence of the Judiciary, in my opinion and under law, plays in the individual judges and the judgments they make. The Judicial Service Commission; and I remember there was a controversy in this country that they cannot be summoned by Parliament. That is administrative organ of the Judiciary; some of the members of that organ are not even judges. Hon. former Member of Parliament, hon. Mango is there. Ahmed Nassir is not a judge. There is a bishop there. Secondly, and as you said it very clearly, my good friend is anticipating debate. It is when we get that report here that we will say that this Parliament cannot discuss this report because it touches on the office and integrity of the Chief Justice and the judges. I think and I totally agree as Parliament, we need to interrogate the expenditure of that trip. We need to establish why both the Chief Justice and the deputy should leave the country. The Committee must find out why, out of the seven members of the Supreme Court, five of them are away on a workshop. The workshop is again addressed by one Moreno Ocampo, a man I have very low opinion of. This is very sad"
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