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    "id": 469544,
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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ethuro",
    "speaker_title": "The Speaker",
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        "legal_name": "Ekwee David Ethuro",
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    "content": " The second matter is what became the subject of the numerous points of orders. First, I am persuaded that the amendment by the Professor is not superfluous. Two, and why I am persuaded so, is that the section of the Transition to Devolved Government Act you are quoting about and I have it on the authority of the Chair of the Transition Authority that, even that inventory is not complete as we speak now. But assuming that it was even complete, then it can be part of the audit – if I can use the layman language and not the strict accountant language that the Senator for Mandera was referring to – it can still be part of the audit. So, I do not see any disconnect between what the Transition Authority could be doing, which to me could be part of the proper audit that is required here. But the more fundamental point really for me is that the Senate would want to be a responsible Senate. You do not want to put a case and you are not very sure of the issues you are raising. So, it is important that the case for the waiver for the debts and loans be based on concrete evidence and data. As Senators, you may also wish to recall that when the Government set out the Local Authorities Transfer Fund (LATF) programme, it was for purposes of clearing debts. But you and I know that those debts are yet to be cleared, and that is why we have this Motion today. They seem to be increasing instead of decreasing; so, I think it is only reasonable that, as a House, we do what is reasonable and what is right. Therefore, we will proceed to put the Question. I, accordingly, now direct that the Division Bell be rang for eight minutes."
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