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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Kajwang",
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        "legal_name": "Gerald Otieno Kajwang",
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    "content": "On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is on the same line, but with a different angle to it and to support what Sen. Wetangula has stated. We are dealing with a situation which is new to the jurisprudence of this House on matters of voting. It is my view that we should develop a rule that would require that any matter that requires voting, especially where now we know--- Because in the Lower House, even if you were eight Members, so long as somebody does not raise a quorum issue, a vote would pass and we would shout. We did not have to vote per delegation and be there physically. We would develop a culture in which we can say that debate can go on and be closed, but a date and time be set for voting. It happens like that in many jurisdictions. The debate ends and you are told, for example, on Thursday at 2.30 p.m., we are voting on this issue and you will see all Members coming to vote and then they can go and do their other business. Some people fly from abroad to come and vote and go back to their business. I wish we did that because this now makes it very important that as many Senators as possible come to the House even when it is overwhelmingly supported. Like the Motion that we have just debated can be lost and we all cry that we have lost a very good component of it. But if we go on like this we are going to lose the entire Motion and if we do, I think the public will laugh at us; that we have made rules that are hindering our own participation in national debate and development. So, like Sen. Wetangula has urged, we can finish the debate and set a date for the voting. The Clerk will then inform all Senators that we are going to vote on this Motion on this date, at this time. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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