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    "id": 471132,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/471132/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Shakeel",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 140,
        "legal_name": "Ahmed Shakeel Shabbir Ahmed",
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    "content": "So, I am yet to find a scrap metal dealer who is not a millionaire. They have taken advantage of this country and have become the scavengers of Kenya. Even the Ninjas and wengine; the ones who steal scrap metal are thieves and yet, we are trying to regulate a thieving industry. We must be very clear. Scrap metal should be a no-no business and if it is going to be done anywhere, it must be done by a parastatal or somebody else. Those are our assets. You know the number of people who have been taken to court even if they are found with copper, brass and full containers. You will never hear the outcome. So, we are saying that we are tired of this issue. I am in the Finance, Planning and Trade Committee where the Association of Scrap Metals came and said that the fines are too much – the Kshs10 million and Kshs20 million shillings. Our question was: “Do you intend to break the law?” That is because they wanted it to be reduced to Kshs500,000. If it is Kshs20 million fine, let it be that. If you do not want to break the law, do not do that. Section 21 says that metals that are poached by scrap metal dealers and other meddlers must remain for seven days so that they can be checked. If a lorry brings some metals, put it somewhere for seven days. I intend to ask that we The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
}