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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Kajwang",
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        "legal_name": "Gerald Otieno Kajwang",
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    "content": "Thank you very much, Madam Temporary Speaker. I want to say one or two things about this very important Bill. Madam Temporary Speaker, when we say 40 per cent and 60 per cent, we are not quite sure what it amounts to. Unless you do the costing and we are advised by experts on the actual costing of what it is that these counties do in terms of paying out certain sums as recurrent expenditure, we might say: Okay, let us move the amount for development to 70 per cent, when 30 per cent that is remaining cannot pay the staff, assemblers and for all those things that should be paid for as recurrent expenditure. So, we needed advice. That is why when I was listening to Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., I thought that when he was making his contribution, he said that he has received advice from the Controller of Budget that after looking at the budgets in terms of what they used to pay salaries, allowances and buy fuel and all those things that are called recurrent expenditure, it seems like it comes to about 40 per cent to 42 per cent overall. With that kind of expert advice, then that is where we should link it, so that there is no wastage. I am sure that she has looked at what they spend on travel and many other things and come to a conclusion that 40 per cent to 42 per cent is where to settle, so that we do this. Madam Temporary Speaker, I know that there are constitutional questions about this; whether the Senate can enact a law that would then put the other assemblies on a straight jacket. I know that, that will come as a constitutional question. It might even go to the Supreme Court, but for the moment, what has alarmed us and the reason we are debating this is that at one time, I went home and my own Member of the County Assembly told me that he had just come from Singapore. I asked him: “What did you go to do in Singapore?” Almost all the Members of the County Assembly had gone to Singapore. I know where Singapore is and the amounts of monies that you will spend on flights, hotels and allowances. This is almost looting and it cannot be the case. At least, Sen. Murkomen said that some of them have gone to Jerusalem. It is better to go to Jerusalem because, at least, you can pray there. But this idea of going to Singapore, China and so on just to enjoy--- What is this benchmarking business between Homa Bay County and Singapore? Singapore is a port, largely, and Homa Bay is not a port. Singapore is an industrial country and business hub while Homa Bay is still in 80 percent rural agriculture. So, The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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