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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Sakaja",
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        "legal_name": "Johnson Arthur Sakaja",
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    "content": "Hon. Deputy Speaker, without any fear of contradiction and whatever, I want to put it clearly that, indeed, when it came to asking for a Division many Members stood up, including myself and for very fundamental reasons, I hold that the Report ought to have been objected to. Everybody has a position. Apart from the lobbying that went on and especially by hon. Jakoyo who stood out the tallest from that side, when you explain what the implication is--- Hon. Deputy Speaker you are on record saying that this means denying counties money and that is why many people changed their minds, including myself. However, I did not vote “Ayes”; I abstained because the division of revenue is not there just for the counties only, it is also there for the national Government. It determines the amount of money that goes to the national Government and the county governments. If you make it look like it is just about the counties, then whoever voted “No”, you are making them look like they do not want devolution. I think Members vote out of their conscience and their own conviction. It is wrong for one to brand anybody as that. I would like to urge that when such a vote is called, the interpretation of the implication of that vote be even left to the Floor and the Committee that has brought it and, maybe, a more informed implication--- The implication that this was just to deny counties money is not correct."
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