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    "content": "Leader, see no reason somebody says we cannot sit with my counterpart, the Senate Minority Leader and discuss those issues. I see no point whatsoever for somebody sitting in this House to say that you are elected as a Senator for Kakamega and you are not legitimate to discuss with the Senator for Nyeri, the Senator for Kitui or the Senator for Mombasa to resolve Kenyan issues. You are actually undermining your own legitimacy. My thinking is that the future of this country must be invested in our institutions. It is either we have institutions or we do not have them. If anybody delegitimizes the institution in which they, themselves, are serving, then I am afraid we are leaving a contradiction. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, with those many remarks, the way forward for this region is through interaction, dialogue, exchange programmes, comparing notes and bench marking. I am happy that the President of the Senate of Rwanda did not come with 20 people; he came with two or three people, which is good. I am also happy that when the Speaker of the Senate of Kenya went to Rwanda, he also went with two people, which is good. That message should also go to the county assemblies, who are complaining that we are too harsh on them. They are complaining that we are telling them not to travel. We are not telling them not to travel; what we are telling them is that it is a shame for an entire assembly to enter one aircraft in the name of bench marking, go and waste two weeks in a foreign country. On that one, we are not going to relent. We will not relent. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, having said that, I have a lot of faith in our Parliament. I have a lot of faith in this Senate. All the problems Kenya has, if I sit as the Senator for Tharaka-Nithi with the Senator for Homa Bay, the Senator for Isiolo, the Senator for Murang’a and with the Members of the National Assembly, we can assist the top honchos in Jubilee and Cord to realize that the country is bigger than everyone. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I thank you and I want to request my brother and my friend, Sen. (Prof.) Peter Anyang’-Nyong’o, the Senator for Kisumu, to second."
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