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    "content": "Subsequent institutions, therefore, that exist for governance, must derive from this principle. You must determine who the people are. The people are the mosaic of the Kenyan nation; the cultural mosaic of the Kenyan nation. The people are the cultural mosaic of the Rwandese nation. The people are the cultural mosaic of the Tanzanian and the Ugandan nations. Mwalimu Julius Nyerere is the only leader who understood this principle at the time of Independence. He said that rather than hurry up and become Prime Minister or head of State of Tanganyika, let me leave that position at the time being and get the feelings of the people on what kind of state they want and sell them institutions called political parties; Tanzania African National Union (TANU) as a mobilizing institution for exercising State power. He left State power to be handled by Rashid Kawawa for a whole year. He tried to understand what this principle was all about and he told Tanganyikans that although they were Kewewes or Chaggas, there is something called the people of Tanganyika and we need to buy into the project of being Tanganyikans. That, indeed, made a lot of difference in trying to sort out the national question in Tanganyika. It has taken us 50 years to realise that dealing with a national question is important and even enshrining it in our Constitution. The question that the Senate Majority Leader was dealing with is very unfortunate. He should interrogate himself much more substantially and intellectually in this issue so that we travel in the same direction and understand the same issues together. That would help us avoid the tragic conflict like what Rwanda experienced in 1994 when the issue of the national question of who the people were was misunderstood or misapplied by the previous regime. The Rwandese State was divided between two conflicting antagonistic ethnic groups; one which had to either vanquish the other one or exercise total power over the other one. That is what led to the genocide which the RPF has been trying to avoid by trying to create a principle of the sovereignty of the Rwandese State based on the sovereignty of other people. Whether the project is succeeding, that is a different issue. The principle has been accepted. I would like to end by saying the following. One, I agree with the Senate Majority Leader that solidarity by having such visits is important. I agree with the Senate Majority Leader that by enhancing the importance of representative of institutions of the Senate and the National Assembly is important. I agree with the Senate Majority Leader that we should be exchanging ideas more frequently and not just make ceremonies. It is, therefore, important for us to ensure that these sentiments are reflected in reality so that we establish institutional mechanisms by enhancing these exchanges. Such institutional mechanisms can only exist by following the visit of the President of the Senate by establishing a much more lasting institutional mechanism for these interactions among and between our various representative institutions in the EAC. I beg to support."
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