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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ogalo",
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        "legal_name": "George Oner Ogalo",
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    "content": "people go for public functions they do not know who is supposed to speak; that would be a serious problem in Kenya and we would have to enact a Bill of his nature. One of the objectives of this Bill is to maintain public order and decorum. I want to submit that we have order and decorum in public functions, and so we do not need a law for it. The other objective is to promote a national culture of respect. This is supposed to be done in churches and schools; we should not have a law for it. The other objective is to facilitate good governance in the Republic of Kenya. Now, we have a whole Chapter Six in the Constitution to deal with this and I do not think we require a law on it. There is an Act for the Salaries and Remuneration Commission (SRC) which guides it. We could amend it to give the Commission guidance, if need be. If you look at the way the State officers are ranked--- They go up to No.10 or No.12, where we see the position of the Chief of Kenya Defence Forces. This is a position for a person charged with the responsibility of safeguarding our borders, but he is ranked even below the Principal Secretaries. We might be interested in creating order and decorum, but by all accounts, we will be creating disorder by passing laws of this nature. Look at Clause 6 on the issue of flags. We have passed a law here about flags. This Clause 6 says that “His Excellency---” I even googled what “His Excellency” means and it is said that it is a title accorded to anybody of high ranking, and an ambassador, a governor or a President can be referred to by this title. I do not know why this House must waste its time trying to deal with governors calling themselves “His Excellency” or the MCAs calling themselves, “Honorable Members”. In any case, we have two tiers of Government, the national Government and the county governments. The counties have their assemblies. The people elected to those assemblies are honourable Members of those assemblies!"
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