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"speaker_name": "Sen. Kembi-Gitura",
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"content": " Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, let me make myself clear. I want to be very clear. I will not allow you to go to the substance of your Point of Order or to say anything that would be substantive unless and until you satisfy me that procedurally you are correct. So, before you go into any substance, convince me first that you are procedurally correct. In that case, I see the most practical avenue open to me is Standing Order No.82. But that is procedural. That just says that every Senator deciding to speak shall address the request to the Speaker, like you have requested me. But the fact that you request to speak does not mean that I will allow you to speak. Let us put it into context. If, for instance, you rise and tell me that you want to seek a Statement from the Chairperson of the Committee on Education, I would like to see the approved Statement by the Speaker. Although you have sought to speak, it is not automatic that you will be allowed to speak. This is because if you are seeking something that is not within my mandate to allow you to speak on, I will not allow you to speak. So, Standing Order 82 cannot apply, because it is procedural. It means that you cannot just rise and speak. The Speaker has to allow you to speak. That is what it says. The fact that you have sought the Floor does not mean that I will allow you to speak. It is the discretion of the Speaker to allow you to speak or not, in other words, to see you or not. Therefore, Standing Order 82 does not apply."
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