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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Kajwang",
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        "legal_name": "Gerald Otieno Kajwang",
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    "content": "Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, thank you very much. I think I agree with Sen. Wako because that is what bothered me earlier. When you say “obtain views,” then it is like you are going to do some referendum or you are going to do some research to know who said “no” and who said “yes.” But when you say “public participation,” then it leaves it there until there is legislation to say exactly how that public participation will be done. I hope this law on public participation comes quickly because as it is now, the county governments are required to facilitate public participation. However, what they do now because I have watched them, it is not really public participation. They go to the market place, they say they are from the county. They have not published anything before like the budgets. They say “we want to do a road, a dam, this or that here, can you give us your views?” People do not know even how much money they have, what is the priority and why they have chosen the dam. Therefore, people actually end up saying that you should not have come here; you have already made a decision. Mr. Temporary Chairperson, that law which has been proposed by the Committee on Legal Affairs and Human Rights should come quickly so that we can put the county governments to account. We will ask them “did you actually carry out public participation as is required by the law?” We could then have the four corners of the law fixing them and saying “you did not, then do the right thing and this budget of yours should be disqualified. Things like that. Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I beg to support the amendment."
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