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    "id": 481375,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr",
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    "content": ".: On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I want to thank you for communicating to the public that whatever they are reading out there about county boards is completely false in terms of the law. I want to confirm that the county boards comply with the law and that at no time, whatsoever, did this Senate pass any Bill that was signed into law insisting that we want to control funds. In addition, it is fair that I saw that unlike what the nay-sayers are talking about, the National Assembly passed the CDF Act and sections 36 and 37 contain a committee known as the County Projects Committee. The County of Makueni proudly formed this Committee which includes the Governor. So, the model we have at the county level is similar to a law that already exists. Therefore, if that was assented to at that particular time, then the one that has been assented to by the President is also constitutional. I urge Senators to go out there to educate the public. It appears that we, Senators, are supposed to do civic education on people who were elected if they do not understand what the law requires. If the County Governments Act says that the County Integrated Development Plan (CIDP) of every county will be done in public with all elected leaders, that is already an integrated plan. If we talk about spatial plans to be done with all elected leaders, I see no reason why somebody should think that this law specifically excluded Senators. If Parliament, in the last session, excluded Senators from management of counties and issues involving counties, nothing would have been easier than for the law to say so. It is fair that we tell the public that they elected us to participate in the projects. Lastly, since this Senate has been given a very specific jurisdiction by the people of Kenya under Article 96 which is the “determination” – the word “determination” is very important because it is equivalent to the word “judgment.” If this is about passing judgment on how much money should go into each county, we have an equal right, if not a converse right, to go out there and find out how the money is being spent. Hon. Senators, I would like to say, without fear of contradiction that we are within the law and should keep our heads high because it is this Senate that will save devolution in Kenya."
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