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    "id": 482874,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/482874/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Ms.) Nyasuna",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 590,
        "legal_name": "Gladys Atieno Nyasuna",
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    "content": "Thank you, hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman. I think hon. Mwaita’s proposal is for two times. However, he just separated and said that for micro and small enterprises we do 25 per cent which I agree with. This is because micro and small enterprises do not have systems and structures that ensure that at the end of every month you will submit in good time your NHIF contribution. Larger enterprises have systems and structures and I do not see why we should excuse them for not submitting. This is because some do not even submit completely. So, I do not see why we should reduce drastically the fine from five to two times. What we must do is to protect our people. Yes, we protect businesses but priority should also be to protect those poor people who work there every day. If their contributions are not submitted in good time the employer should feel afraid of not submitting. However, if you tell them that it is only two times, if the submission is Kshs320 and they are only going to submit Kshs600, it must be punitive not to submit your employee’s contribution."
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