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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Limo",
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        "legal_name": "Joseph Kirui Limo",
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    "content": "Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I rise to say some things about this Bill. If you look at this Bill, what we need to appreciate is that we are in a young democracy. Otherwise, this Bill would not be necessary if we were in a mature democracy like hon. Lati has stated. We really do not need a law to give us order. But the reality is different because we must recognize that we are in Africa. If we do not create order, it will cause chaos. There is a precedence which has been set during some functions in this country, where around five minutes were spent trying to determine who should speak first. That is just an example. We have had difficult situations so many times and so, we must recognize that we are Africans and we are in Kenya. We are, therefore, developing our democracy slowly by slowly. In any case, we need to just put things in order and so, I support this Bill with a few amendments. The Member of Parliament will come below the governor. I want to urge this House that, as we make laws, let us make them for the future. Even if we do not agree with the governor, we have to see the reality that the governor should--- Even when you look at the remuneration of governors, it is higher than that of Members of Parliament and that is a reality. In fact, the governor speaks for a bigger population than Members of Parliament. This is the reality. Let us agree and put the governor ahead of Members of Parliament. Secondly, all retired people – former – should never come ahead of people who are serving in the Government. All the former servants should come below the chairpersons of commissions so that we also recognize the people who are serving. They should come ahead of those who have retired. When you retire, you do not need to be worried about who speaks first. I also want to say that we must address the issue of using the title Cabinet Secretaries. Cabinet Secretaries historically used to be elected through the general elections. Now that they are appointed, we cannot explain why they should use the name “honourable”. The Cabinet Secretaries and county executives should just go by their names, except those Cabinet Secretaries who had served in the National Assembly. As we speak now, we only have three hon. Members - hon. (Ms.) Ngilu, hon. Balala and hon. Kambi. I want to end by saying that we should bring an amendment to this Bill to show who is entitled to use a siren. In this country, anytime you are in a queue, you hear so many noises from all over and wonder whether they are ambulances or what. Anybody will just pick a siren and put it on his or her vehicle. Therefore, I propose that we enact those rules to bring order. We do not have to care about the names that we are given. My The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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