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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, in the Outa case, an allegation was made that Outa had committed a criminal offence in an election process and the trial court purported to convict him without a criminal trial. The Supreme Court said that this is not tenable. The allegations against the Deputy Governor are that he violated the provisions of the National Cohesion and Integration Act, which gives rise to criminal responsibility. What our House can do, where there are such transgressions, is to recommend to the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) to investigate and prosecute. That is what this House could have done. Until and unless the Deputy Governor – I do not know whether he is called Kyalo or Chalo; I do not know how to pronounce the Kamba names – has been arraigned before a court of law, prosecuted for hate speech and convicted, it cannot be a ground for removal from office on the basis of exaggerations, alarmist statements and fear mongering that helps nobody. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I feel saddened to sit here in this Chamber and listen to one of us drawing irrelevant parallels between what the Deputy Governor is alleged to have said, which he denies the derogatory meaning in it and explains what he meant and is on record, and the happenings in Rwanda and the happenings in Hitler’s Germany, the disjoinder of even alleging in this House that the 2007/2008 post-election violence was triggered by utterances. Everybody knows that the 2007/2008 clashes were caused by the bungling of elections by the Electoral Commission of Kenya (ECK); not by utterances by anybody, although they eventually took some ethnic fault lines in the conflict. To tell us that for the Deputy Governor to say Nguu can trigger genocide – because Rwanda was not an ethnic conflict, it was genocide – or that Hitler gassing Jews on trains in Germany in the 1940s could have been triggered by a remark as frivolous as this is to stretch our imagination too wild and too far. We must be true to ourselves. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the English say “Give a dog a bad name and hang it.” I do not think the Senate is ready to give this dog a bad name and hang it. This Senate must listen to this dog and give it its day before the altar of justice. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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