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    "content": "As we read the affidavits, the word nguu was used in different ways and different contexts. I remember a text message which the Deputy Governor had sent to somebody who referred to the nguu as one person. I said that we never had the opportunity to bring before us a Kamba vernacular specialist to inform the Committee so that we are well- informed. We were unfortunate enough not to get the chief executive officer of the National Cohesion and Integration Commission which could have given us a professional interpretation of this word. Mr. Speaker, Sir, nonetheless, we were not unconscious of the danger of using such words in a derogatory manner. The Chairperson is right to quote as having said that fascism usually begins from a single person or context. That was right, but I was wondering that in the context of Machakos where this Deputy Governor had been rendered kind of inoperative by his governor. There is a saying that says that an idle mind is a devil’s workshop. Surely, if your governor makes you idle, you are unfortunately inadvertently a candidate for the devil to carry out carpentry. This is unfortunate. It means that we need to have an approach other than impeachment because we are dealing with a context where problems can occur because of failure of management. I remember right from the beginning, I said that the problem in Machakos is a problem of management. There is a failure of administration. Mr. Speaker, Sir, as a Senate, since our responsibility is to serve counties and their interest, let us use an approach that will help and not necessarily punish one individual. That was a very difficult decision for me to make because I also understood as my Chairperson said that when these words are said repeatedly, they could be dangerous. In the case of Machakos, the Deputy Governor used these words differently in different contexts. So, you could not really get a trail of thought that he was being malicious and was all the time using those words to cause ethnic hatred. There was no evidence of that continuity from the files. Fourthly, Mr. Speaker, Sir, I was kind of disturbed because the Deputy Governor did not take to the witness stand. I wonder why the lawyers said so. Then I went to the notes I had taken and I found that at one point, the lawyers said that these affidavits translated have not been certified. I remember the lawyer on the other side for the County Assembly saying “yes, we shall make sure that they are certified.” But I did not receive those certified copies in the Committee. So, during the night when I was going through systematically why we must make this decision, I found certain loopholes that made it very difficult for me to arrive at the conclusion that we should impeach the Deputy Governor on that count. Fifth, Mr. Speaker, Sir, I also felt that there was a premature handing over by the Executive to the County Assembly. The world I use is that I felt as if the Executive was “outsourcing” its problems to the County Assembly. Rather than deal with problems, they outsource this problem there so that it becomes an impeachment process and then you bring it to the Senate prematurely. So, I was disturbed by this process. Are we dealing more with a political problem because the County Executive is not properly managed? Or are we really dealing with an individual whose mind has been made the devil’s workshop because he is idle? The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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