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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, to me, gross violation of the Constitution became a very difficult conclusion notwithstanding the fact that some harm had been done by this kind of behaviour. However, I felt that then there is a proper institution in Government that should deal with the problems. This is the National Integration and Cohesion Commission (NCIC) because they have the expertise and the time. They will save the Senate the agony we went through. Bringing something here when the Senate has neither the time nor the opportunity to go through all the necessary evidence, is to undermine this House. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I do hope that when the Deputy Governor takes the stand here, him and his lawyer will make this thing much clearer to us so that we are better informed. I do not think we should worry about differences in the Senate on interpretation of these issues. This is why we are here. We should not take it as if we are dividing ourselves; no. We are reasoning so that we can come to a good conclusion in the interest of the individual and the nation because, mind you, justice must begin with the accused. The accused must feel and be convinced that the process of meeting justice, if it ends in being found guilty, it was fair and just itself. So, I would like to say that in this regard, I find it heavy to make such a major decision when there are too many lacunas in the process. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I also remember discussing in my Committee that we were faced with a similar situation in Kisumu; everybody was going to impeach everybody else. I called the Governor, the Deputy Governor, the Speaker and the Majority Leader. They sat for about four hours. I was there telling them that if they go like this, we will not have a government. I met the County Assembly twice and you know about this because I informed you. I told them that we cannot do this; impeachment is not a solution to our problems. We must sit down and have a dispute resolution mechanism and that we should discuss this thing. We are all capable of making mistakes. We are all capable of having a slip of the tongue. We are all capable of venting our anger in public so that we feel as if we are trying to offend other people. But, then, as a political scientist, I must look at the etymology of these problems. What are the causes of these problems? Sometimes it is said that if appearances coincided with reality, science would be superfluous. So, we should not, most of the time, make conclusions from appearances. We should make conclusions for scientific investigations and inquiries. Mr. Speaker, Sir, in this regard, we need to be very careful that the body that has the time to do proper inquiry into this issue and make a sound judgment is the NCIC. It is a process that I think came to us prematurely. I think the County Executive outsourced its administrative and management problems to the County Assembly. The Executive was too eager to hang the Deputy Governor on the nearest tree. Surely, the Senate should not be that tree. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir."
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