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    "id": 484865,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Ms.) Nyasuna",
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        "legal_name": "Gladys Atieno Nyasuna",
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    "content": "Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, we did not see these things before devolution. That is why we are happy that money is going to our counties. We acknowledge, like any new programme, there must be teething problems. Even in any team before there is settling, there is what is called “storming before forming”. During this period of storming, we cannot hope or throw the baby out with the bath water. I get concerned as I increasingly see our governors getting demonized day by day. They are human beings just like ourselves and they can make mistakes which can be corrected so that we do not kill, like the hon. Minority Leader said, devolution with governors. We must separate these two things."
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