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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ng’ongo",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "John Mbadi Ng'ong'o",
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    "content": "Thank you, hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. Allow me to add my voice in supporting this Bill. I want to start from the point that the County Allocation of Revenue Bill is actually a Bill that talks about figures that have already been transacted in this House. The Chair will remember that, as a House, we provided Kshs226.66 billion to be shareable revenue in the counties from the National Government. We also added Kshs1.87 billion specifically for the Level 5 hospitals across the country. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I want to start from the point raised by hon. Nyamweya; who is a good friend of mine. He spoke about conditional grants. I want to ask the House to appreciate that we have two types of revenue going to the counties. We have shareable revenue and conditional revenue. The shareable revenue of Kshs226.66 billion has actually been divided based on a formula. That formula was arrived at by the National Assembly of the Tenth Parliament; even though the law says that the CRA should recommend to the Senate a formula which takes five years. The formula we have was arrived at by the Tenth Parliament and the Senate has the option of changing it at any time. But they have not changed it. Therefore, that is the formula we must use. On the conditional grant, I think this is where the confusion is coming from. I find it a bit interesting that the hon. Member is casting aspersions on the membership of the Budget and Appropriations Committee where I also sit. He has actually mentioned my county as one of the counties which got a conditional grant of Kshs1.6 billion during the last financial year and is currently getting only Kshs200 million. Therefore, if one sitting in Homa Bay and hears that, he will see me as a very negligent Member of Parliament. I want to say no. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, conditional grants that go to the counties are actually funds that come from the donor community. Those funds come from our development partners and are based on specific agreements with those donors. If a donor has agreed with Nairobi County, for example, which this year is getting Kshs1.6 billion as money to finance activities in Nairobi, it is not practical to take that money and share it with any other county because the conditionalities within that agreement will not permit it. Therefore, it is upon our counties to be proactive and negotiate. If we want more funds to go to our counties; it is upon our governors and the executive committee members to negotiate agreements with donors to get financing and funding from various donor community. I wanted just to make that point clear. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, allow me to make two other quick comments because I also want other colleagues to contribute to this Bill. If the headmaster of a school, for example, a principal, steals money, you do not close the school. You get rid of that head-teacher or principal. Therefore, the fact that some people have issues with governors in terms of management of resources does not make devolution untenable. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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