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    "id": 485956,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Abongotum",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 165,
        "legal_name": "Asman Abongutum Kamama",
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    "content": "Thank you, hon. Speaker. First of all, I appreciate the scholarly manner in which hon. Wakhungu presents his cases or statements. But I want to deny the claim that we have Nyumba Kumi that has been formed by criminals. I want to confirm that we have gangs of criminals and they could be 18 or 20. We have those gangs, but there is no Nyumba Kumi for criminals. On the cost-benefit analysis; because he has referred to a case study; hon. Wakhungu normally talks about methodology. He wants to have findings and deductions. Therefore, we want to tell him that this committee and the secretariat on Nyumba Kumi will meet sometimes next week and we will also consult widely. If we find that it is imperative and it is prudent that we have hon. Members briefed on this programme, I think we will organize a Kamukunji so that we call the Kaguthi Committee to come and brief hon. Members on what Nyumba Kumi entails and what they intend to do. Therefore, that will be done progressively, but the timeline is after thorough consultations have been done on this matter."
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