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    "content": "every little complaint comes to us. This will ensure that the assembly can do its work. I do not even think we need legislation, but we could advise the Auditor-General that if the inquiry is about Homa Bay County and there is something about the expenditure that he is unsatisfied with, he should publish that information and place it before the County Assembly of Homa Bay so that the assembly can deal with it. In the event that there is something which requires our attention, then it can be brought here. I respect my brother, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, for the energy and passion that he has for the job that we have given him. He is definitely going to be overwhelmed by the matters that will be coming from all the counties. There will be an inquiry on all the issues of expenditure, procurement and misconduct of any nature. So, I suppose that we might find a way in which we ask the Auditor-General to deal with the county assemblies on these matters of inquiry before they come to the Senate. This will ensure that we do not deal with everything that comes from there. Otherwise, we are denying them the job for which they have been elected. We are passing this legislation so that they have the power to do exactly that. It is very difficult to be a witness, especially if a witness fears that after giving evidence you may be called upon again to substantiate somewhere else. That is why in the other dispensation, we also have witness protection. A witness must feel protected sufficiently to come and give truthful evidence before a committee of the assembly. Unless you feel protected by the law, witnesses will not give evidence. In fact, they may be ready to give evidence, but eventually when they are known, they are threatened and may withdraw. This is because nobody wants to suffer the consequences of being dragged in court even when there will be no penalty at the end. Being dragged in court for years and going through the expenses of lawyers and so on, because you gave evidence--- Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I love what has been put in Clause 20 with regard to the privileges of witnesses; that every person who is summoned to give evidence or produce a---"
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