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    "id": 492040,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/492040/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Dr.) Zani",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Agnes Zani",
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    "content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, what we are going through are the trials and tribulations of devolution. I think these have happened in other countries as well, including African countries like Nigeria that had quite a bit of turbulence. We must look at it as a process and say: “Yes, there will be turbulence, disagreements and people might look at things from a different perspective.” We need to move a notch higher and look at the experiences of these other countries and how they were able to surmount those challenges. I look at it also as a case of having, therefore, a rationale for a niche for the Senate. This is exactly the reason why the Senate was constitutionally formed for us to be able to step in, be the guardian angels of the counties, be able to arbitrate, mediate between the county assemblies and the national government, look at the issues that are going round, address those issues, engage with those county assemblies and look at everything that is coming up so that those issues are tackled in good time. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the case of Isiolo County is really a sad one but I think there were already triggers. It is important for us, as a Senate, as we look at the unfolding events within the county assemblies, in terms of the processes they are going through to try to identify these triggers. These triggers will be identified when we engage. As Senators attached to specific counties, we need to be in sync and really close to the goings on in the counties. We probably need to think of a mechanism where we bring these issues either to the relevant committee of this House or to the Senate to be able to discuss what is going on, so that we can forestall the situation. For most of the counties, there has been a trigger. In Makueni County, for example, there were triggers. We started seeing the disagreements between the MCAs and the Governor. For Machakos County, we also saw what was happening and this culminated into an impeachment Motion that"
}