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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ogolla",
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        "legal_name": "Gideon Ochanda Ogolla",
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    "content": "Hon. Speaker, a good reading of Articles 124, 125, and 153 of the Constitution indicates that you have been right. It justifies exactly what we are at as a House and we need to move forward with it. We have agonized over a period of time. This is, in fact, the second year. When one looks at the issue of separation of powers, we have been playing our role through Chairpersons of Committees. This is a role that needed to be played by the Executive. If the Cabinet Secretaries cannot appear in Parliament or before the Committees, then the person they are answerable to under Article 153(2)--- This is because each one of them, individually or collectively, is accountable to the President. If the Cabinet Secretaries do not appear then the President must indicate to this House who is to appear. This is the message that needs to be indicated very clearly that somebody must appear to account for the actions of the Executive. Like I have indicated before, we have agonized when our colleagues are the ones who attempt to give responses to questions forwarded to the Ministries. Many times, they just read the responses. They cannot explain the background of all those statements. It has been very difficult to put a colleague in the same situation that you would want to put the Cabinet Secretaries. The other thing is that you have done very well in terms of trying to socialize with the players. I think we are arriving at this through some kind of a process and the Speaker has done very well. Many actors are supposed to be in this process, but the Speaker has taken his time. My view is - if I am to read what we had last week or last week but one - that the Speaker has socialized players into this process. They have been alerted and briefed on what those things are all about. I think it is very much clear now. But when somebody comes to say that those people cannot appear at the eleventh hour, when the The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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