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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I have the Speech by His Excellency the President, which reminds me of many things. If my father was alive today, he would have said; “I told you.” When he presented a Bill to Parliament on this issue, it was rejected. I remember vividly when he said that the President of the Republic at the time and the Prime Minister should resign because they had let down this country by allowing our citizens to be subjected to an international court process when we would have handled this here. Maybe he is listening in his grave, but this is where we should not have gone as a country. As we do so, it is embarrassing and, probably, the reason that he was very upset, for a Kenyan to be on the witness box, shielded accusing another Kenyan before foreigners. It is embarrassing for that Kenyan to stand up and say that I was bribed to lie. We, as Kenyans, should be embarrassed that we have subjected this country to what I call ridicule before the international community. While those witnesses are confessing that they were bribed or intimidated, there is a gentleman in Naivasha who lost his family. Is that also a lie? What are we telling Mr. Ndege? I had the opportunity of representing the former Member of Parliament for Naivasha, the only Member of Parliament at the time who was subjected to the Kenyan justice system as a result of the post-election violence. What happened in Naivasha is despicable. The report by Justice Waki ought to drive we, the legislators, to tears, because there are people in this country who will never recover. I have heard Sen. Beth Mugo say that people have reconciled. You ask yourself the question: How do you reconcile a family member, like Mr. Ndege, who lost 13 people? What do you reconcile with that person? How do you reconcile when we do not have a person who confesses and says:- “Dear Kenyans, I was responsible. Please, forgive me.” Then, we can have true reconciliation in this country. I want to remind this country to record history. The Nuremburg trials of the Nazis have taken a lifetime. But the people who caused the atrocities have faced justice, even if it has taken a lifetime. So, as we congratulate the President for going to The Hague, like he should have, because he actually said that he would before he became President, we must go back to the drawing board. If we must have true reconciliation, we must first have truth and justice, so that we do not do what I call lip-service. There are members of my community, the Akamba, who were separated from their families, simply because they came from Makueni, Machakos and Kitui counties and were married to other tribes. Their children who had Kamba names were taken back to Ukambani and the rest left in other places. How do you reconcile those issues? The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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