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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ngong’o",
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        "legal_name": "John Mbadi Ng'ong'o",
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    "content": "Hon. Speaker, thank you for giving me this opportunity. You know, hon. Kuria actually was two years ahead of me in college and fortunately I have now the task of trying to train him. I know he has been very lucky and probably thinks he can be lucky all the time. Hon. Speaker, hon. Kuria is one of the MPs who are in this Bunge as a result of telephone calls, but is not lucky this time. Now, let me come to the issue that hon. Kuria has raised. The issue of sub judice, in my view, is very clear under Standing Order No. 89. Standing Order No. 89 says that no member shall refer to any particular matter which is sub judice or which, by the operation of any written law, is secret. Then it goes on to describe what is actually sub judice if the matter is active in court. Hon. Speaker, even though the responsibility of proving that a matter is active in court is with the Member leading it, fortunately for us, hon. Kuria himself has already proved that the matter is active and there is an injunction. Therefore, we would only urge our friend, I know he has excitement, really when you start running when others are already ahead, you want to catch up with them very fast. I would understand and appreciate that, but we ask him to hold on and understand that just as we complain that the Judiciary is interfering at times with the operations and activities of Parliament, we also want to respect Parliament and you hold your horse. We are all affected in this. We would only urge, as hon. (Dr) Naomi Shaban has said, that this matter should be concluded speedily. Actually, we urge the Judiciary to be dispensing of these matters as fast as they come so that they do not hold the entire country. We cannot, in my view, discuss this matter. Thank you very much for giving me time to train hon. Kuria. The problem is that he does not want to sit near me most of the time. I would urge him for the time that he is going through training; he should come and sit this side. I will surrender him back once he has already learnt the rules of the House because next to him is hon. Charles Njagagua and he is not doing a very good job. Hon. Charles, you should have stopped him from raising this matter. Thank you. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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