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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Ms.) Abdalla",
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        "legal_name": "Amina Ali Abdalla",
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    "content": "Hon. Chairlady, I want to urge hon. Members to appreciate that the amendment by hon. Mwaita states “registered group representatives of the community”. Let us give an example of community land under group ranches. You can have group ranch “x” but there is a group of people who are members of that group ranch that are registered as a community based organisation or as a self-help group. Would you be dealing with the owners of this group ranch who have some legitimacy in ownership or will you be dealing with the self-help group? So, the import of hon. Mwaita’s amendment is adding people who are not recognised in community land, if it is community ranches, or what will be determined in the Community Lands Act. This is a group that is not formally registered as having ownership to this land. There is also the argument that hon. (Dr.) Simiyu was advancing, that some people would come and say that they own that particular land. There is a provision in this licensing process, that consultation must take place and if you have an objection you raise it within those 90 days, for purposes of those people who might be masquerading as the owners of that land. You have to appreciate that as leaders the rights to prospecting and mining are different from ownership of that land. Somebody might own a block to explore oil in your area. In the past, he did not have to get your consent but now he has to get the consent of that community. But as phrased, the communities are covered in the existing clause and the proposal by hon. Mwaita is bringing people outside ownership of that land."
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