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    "content": "We are not limited by law to hire them if their expertise is important and what is missing in the existing system. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, why does a Chairperson of the Committee on Legal Affairs and Human Rights again have to be the Chairperson of this ad hoc committee? It makes no sense, really. If a different view and a different modus operandi had to be seen, then it would just have been fair for another person to Chair this Committee so that we can see the difference in operations. It is not acceptable. The important issue is: If we think the Committee on Legal Affairs and Human Rights does not have enough powers, then let us move an amendment to the Standing Orders to increase its powers. If we think there is an area they cannot serve, then let us give them those powers. If we think this committee has failed to work, then let us have a new Committee on Legal Affairs and Human Rights so that they can carry out their mandate instead of having this ad hoc committee. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, if you look at some Members of this committee that I know, there are some who now have membership in five committees. Most of them will averagely have four Committees to serve in. There is already a cry in this House, like Sen. Kagwe put it, we are even thinking of reducing or removing the new Committees that were increased so that we serve in the earlier Committees. It is not practical; getting quorum is a problem. I am told that the Committee on Legal Affairs and Human Rights is one of the committees which have a quorum problem. Either way, we cannot sort out that problem by creating another problem. It is not mathematical that a negative multiplied by a negative will be a positive; it never works that way in law. It is only in mathematics and physics where it works. In any case, the Speaker, the Deputy Speaker and any other Member of this Committee can always attend the meetings of the Committee on Legal Affairs and Human Rights, like it has been ably stated here by Sen. Kagwe. Nobody denies anybody from attending any committee and deliberating in the matters they are interested in, if that is necessary. The Speaker already has enough work to do plus his Deputy The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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