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    "content": "If this is a political war, then there is nothing you can do to resolve political conflict apart from dialogue. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the day we decide to speak with the lower House and speak in one voice, that will be the day. However, when we continue thinking that the Senate can survive on its own, we will continue to suffer. We know, for sure, that we do not have the numbers. However, the Constitution, no matter how few we are, gives us powers. However, have these powers been used properly to make sure that we achieve what we want? My advice is that we should not have this kind of a committee. We have a Committee on Legal Affairs and Human Rights. I do not want repeat what others have said. However, if Sen. Wako and his team fail or feel very strongly that they want to resign, we could replace them with other Members. Sometimes the problems we create are beyond expression. Sometimes it is difficult to say “no” to this kind of a committee because all these are our colleagues. However, those who have independent minds need to ask themselves several questions. What will we achieve with this committee? Is it just like having the entire House? What will the 13 Members do? Will they summon the Chief Justice because that is where the problem is? Will they summon the Head of State because that is another problem? What will they do to change the situation apart from going to Mombasa several times to seek wisdom? I wonder why it is only in Mombasa that one can call a meeting that people will attend. My little knowledge about public affairs tells me that this committee will add nothing, but problems. They will bring a report here which will be emotionally debated and will die there. That is my vision. What do we do after all that? My colleagues may want to go and see how the House of Commons works and how it relates with other institutions. This is another gimmick. My friend, hon. (Dr.) Machage, said that it is another form of corruption. This has also been back-dated. What kind of wisdom is this? Where are we going? Why should we corrupt and back date a report? Why can we not report tomorrow or the day after? There is no new knowledge that we will acquire from this committee that we do not have. There was an idea of bringing a Motion to state our problem. I would also have the same problem even if a Motion was brought. What would we be telling the world and the country? Are we telling them that they have given us the Constitution that is very poor and that we have come back to them to give us another Constitution at the same time opposing amendments of the Constitution? We are in a disarray and do not know what we are doing. Where are we? Once again, we need to look at this matter. I want to propose to you that we need to have dialogue; whatever the price. The Members of the National Assembly are our brothers and sisters. The leadership here consists of all of us. We could still talk and sort out our problems. There are many things that we are not saying. Some laws have been passed by the National Assembly. The laws were supposed to come through the Senate. The laws are now active. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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