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    "speaker_name": "Hon. A.B. Duale",
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        "legal_name": "Aden Bare Duale",
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    "content": "Hon. Deputy Speaker, the Senate has, on numerous occasions, proceeded to publish and consider Bills in instances where there has been very clear disagreement between the two Speakers as to whether the Bills concern county governments or they are money Bills. Therefore, in my opinion and in the opinion of this House, the Senate should be the last House to regard itself a saint. The Senate should portray the National Assembly in proper light. They are the main proponents of defiance. The attempt by the Senate to hire external lawyers to file a case in court is yet another scheme by the Senators to not only reward their cronies but to also defraud the public of colossal sums of money as the Parliamentary Service Commission (PSC) has already employed competent advocates who are capable of seeking appropriate orders from any court. We must make this very clear to the PSC and our Speaker, who is the Chair: The Eleventh Parliament has a serious team of lawyers in the Litigation Department; they are experts. We are warning the PSC not to hire lawyers from outside Parliament. The Senate wants to go to court, so that they can pay their cronies in the legal profession. It is the Senate’s right to go to court, but they must use the Litigation Department of the Eleventh Parliament. Hon. Deputy Speaker, I have given a list of money Bills which ought to have originated from this House and in respect of which the Senate decided to violate the Constitution. The Mining Bill is still within Parliament. We have a serious leadership of Parliament. The Office of the Speaker of the National Assembly and that of the Speaker of the Senate are barely 10 metres apart. The leadership of the National Assembly and that of the Senate are in the same building. Why should we use the media and the courts to solve disputes which have already been anticipated and adequately addressed by the Constitution? I want to make it very clear that as per Article 110(3), it is not the work of the Attorney-General to determine which Bill is a county Bill. The responsible organ is provided for in the Constitution. It is, therefore, good to make it very clear to the country that the so-called “upper House” should not be crying every now and then. They have fought many battles. They have fought the Council of Governors, the Judiciary and the Supreme Court. They are the ones who were vilifying the Judiciary only the other day. Today, they want to take us to the same Judiciary. They cannot have their cake and eat it. Therefore, the Senate should, first, sort out their issues with the Council of Governors and the Judiciary. When it comes to us, let us sit down together as the The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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