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    "content": "listening to us – were working, some of the things we are seeing would not be happening. How would a gang kill 21 policemen without anybody knowing in advance? The people who killed those boys in Kapedo were not two, three or four; they were a gang. How could what happened in Mpeketoni happen with a police force and an intelligent service? It did not happen once or twice; those guys continued raiding with impunity and walking away. In the old days – Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale can bear witness to this – we used to have a criminal gang from Uganda called kondos. They were so daring that they would send you information in advance; Sen. (Dr.) Machage, we shall be visiting you. True, the day they have said, they will turn up, chop you into pieces, put you in a sack and leave. Then they will send the same message to somebody else. The Government at the time had no will to tackle the kondos until Idi Amin came to power and infiltrated them and cleared them. If you want to know the value of intelligence, you should look at what has happened to Turkey. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for a long time since the days of Kemal Ataturk, the Turkish Army had a grip on the politics of Turkey. When they are not overthrowing civilians, they are killing them and when a civilian does something wrong, the generals will just call you as a prime minister and order you to resign and go. The current President of Turkey was a prime minister and he infiltrated the army and gathered intelligence, carefully and ceaselessly for three years, saying nothing, doing nothing. Now all the generals are in jail. All those conspirators who had gripped the politics in Turkey are all in jail and Turkey has now liberated itself from the clutches of the army and now a civilian authority is in control. That is the value of intelligence. If you go to America which every Kenyan likes quoting, they trust more and invest more in intelligence than any other operations. The other operations come at the tail end. Whether it is killing Bin Laden or kidnapping President Noriega, or attempting to kill Fidel Castro, it is the intelligence that does it. We are painstakingly saying this and the distinguished Senator sitting in front of me is a former security Minister and he knows that if you do not have your security right, forget that you have a country. You can do whatever you are doing; you can discover oil, uranium and go to the moon, but if your security is not correct, you can forget it. That is why in this country we have been saying over and over that security involves all of us. Insecurity for one is insecurity for all. If we want our economy to grow to where we want it to be, it will not grow by what is happening at the coast. It will not grow by what is happening in Turkana, Pokot and Moyale. Kenyans in Moyale come and work in their shops and in the evening, they cross over to sleep in Ethiopia because it is safer. How can we have a country like this one? We are busy shouting from the roof tops how we are now the best in Africa. What are we best in? We are preaching things that are not tenable and have no basis. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we want a peaceful Kenya. If you cross over in Tanzania, people sit the whole night chatting, playing karata, ubao and sipping coffee. In Nairobi, we are talking of creating a 24 hour economy. Just stand on Kenyatta Avenue at 5.00 p.m. and see how rapidly shopkeepers close their shops. Everybody is pulling down the chain by 5.00 p.m. How can we have a 24 hour economy when you open at 9.00 a.m. and close at 5.00 p.m. How will it happen when criminal gangs have taken over our The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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