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    "content": "unfortunately, I did not keep up with the demand of the Chair because he wanted me there all the time, but I had many other things to do. Madam Temporary Speaker, this matter is very clear to all of us. I have gone through these problems, it does not only affect people out there but even those who retire from the National Assembly, they used to suffer quite a lot. When I was a Member of the Parliamentary Service Commission, we put in place a provision that no Member of Parliament or staff will run around in offices looking for what is due to them. I am sure you know that. We come from the rural areas where people are really suffering. If you are supposed to come to Nairobi to get your money, for instance, you are looking for Kshs30,000 and you have been travelling to Nairobi many times, what do you expect this person will get? We cannot understand the reason why the people concerned do not expedite the payment of these people. You cannot understand the reason why they do that. It seems this is a Kenyan culture; that you have to be corrupt to survive. The reason why they want to be corrupt is that after they leave their jobs, they remain poor. Therefore, they need to collect as much money as possible before they go home. It is high time that the Bill being proposed by the Chair in this report was expedited so that we can give this country some answers even if we are not going to stop the corruption. Some people have every right to demand but they do so without any law. That is why they are being frustrated by the officers concerned. When the leaders from the affected areas came to be interviewed by us, you find that everybody is protective of their own position. If anything, they wanted power to be added. Then you ask yourself; why do we behave like this? We need to go through a kind of mental rehabilitation in this country so that we can change for the good of this nation. When a young boy who is a graduate and sees or hears how his father behaves in the office, what does he think? Kenyans do not even feel ashamed. I read a book called The Illusion of Power; that all the children being born in Kenya will all believe in corruption and you cannot change. They all believe in corruption because their fathers are the drivers and promoters of corruption. That means we have a long way to go to change this country from the position where we are to a new Godly position where you will not want to take an individual’s money for the job you are supposed to do. Madam Temporary Speaker, the mental torture that people go through is too much. They end up accusing politicians. I think they are doing the right thing to condemn and abuse the politicians because they are the custodian of the Constitution. They are the people who are supposed to amend all the laws to make sure that corruption is eradicated. Why can the National Assembly and the Senate not come out and do what we are supposed to do? Why do we cry here all the time? A time will come, like in England, United States of America (USA) or in any developed nations if we continue lamenting--- Here we just lament and if somebody stands here he or she complains how there are problems at home. For example, I can stand here and talk about what everybody knows, thus just repeating myself. There is nothing new you are saying to the public of Kenya. We are observed like cartoons because we have to be talking all the time without coming to the answer. The only way we can move closer to the answer and stop corruption is if we start The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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